Ryan N. Butkus ([info]rnb) wrote,
@ 2008-08-21 16:55:00
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superhero update
I typically don't like superheroes at all, so having a post that talks about nothing else is a little different.



I saw both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight for the first time a few weeks ago. I had rather low hopes for both, I must admit. Batman Begins starts out pretty well, though--the first act with Wayne in a foreign prison and going through the motions of figuring out his calling in life is kind of cool. I liked the Liam Neeson character and a lot of the backstory. The problem was that nothing that came after that interested me at all. Batman is one of my least favorite superheroes, so this isn't too surprising. I think he relies too much on gadgets and garbage and not enough on savvy and fighting. Don't get me started on stupidity like the Batmobile, the very name of which forever dooms it to being completely stupid. And that's my biggest issue with Batman, I think: he's got bat-this and bat-that and his weapons are shaped like bats and his vehicles are supposed to look cool and dark and bad ass, but they come off as clumsy and unwieldy and way too over the top. He starts out in prison and as a thief dressed in rags and he ends up using Batarangs and (god help us all) calling for help from a group of bats using ultrasound emitters. To make things worse, the villain was pretty lame and the plot to make everyone in Gotham go crazy using fear gas was utterly ridiculous and boring. To recap: I had low hopes going in, the first act made me think that this movie actually might be good, then the rest of the movie convinced me it really was crap and there was no hope for Batman anything. Batman is doomed to be lame, I think, just because of how ridiculous the entire character is. I hate the stupid gadgetry and that's what everyone else likes about the character. Oh, well.

Then I saw The Dark Knight and it was loads better, but still not that great of a movie. The whole deal with Batman going to Hong Kong to retrieve the Chinese businessman was unnecessary and should have been cut. I liked Heath Ledger as the Joker and think he did a good job, but I don't get the calls for Oscars and people saying what a great performance it was. He made a great character, that's true, but he didn't really have enough to do to make it some acting tour de force. The story called for him to show up and go nuts, then disappear until he had to come be nuts again. He was fantastic at being nuts, though.

I really did like the shot of the Joker driving the police car with his head sticking out of the window. For some reason, it was just a really pretty shot.

The storyline was pretty absurd, however, as apparently the Joker became a magical character with godlike abilities to be in eight places at once and pull off complex schemes that he concocted in two days. Oh, you think you caught me, Batman?!?! Well what you don't know is that I've secretly placed a giant death beam in space that is pointing at your face right now. Lulz!

That is not interesting in a movie. There was a decent job of piling on the tense and complicated situations toward the end, though, to show how Batman cut through everything and saved the day. Overall, not bad but not that great.



I watched the first few episodes of Heroes the other day to see if it was any good, but I thought it was mostly five characters in search of a plot. I'm going to give it a few more episodes to see if it gets better, but I'm curious if anyone watches it regularly and can tell me if it does. I thought the writing was surprisingly not good and figured ordinary people with superhuman abilities would be a shoe in for an addicting show, but so far I'm not feeling it.



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[info]podling
2008-08-22 06:15 pm UTC (link)
If you ever read X-men, you probably don't need to watch Heroes. The first season is so like one of their plotlines (namely, Days of Future Past) that even places like entertainment weekly called them on it. That being said, the characters do get more interesting, but I had a hard time getting past parts of it. And overall I'm not sure it's a great show, though if nothing's on, I'll watch it.

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[info]rnb
2008-08-22 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Not being a big superhero person, I've never read X-Men. I think I'm just going to give it the next few episodes and call it a day if I'm still not into it.

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[info]vivaemptiness
2008-08-22 06:25 pm UTC (link)
The whole deal with Batman going to Hong Kong to retrieve the Chinese businessman was unnecessary and should have been cut.

I completely agree. THe only point of that was to show the sonar cell phone thing for later which was BEYOND RIDICULOUS OMGWTF.

and pull off complex schemes that he concocted in two days.

Yup. Despite the part where he tells Harvey Dent, "I don't plan." :P

I thought Heath was very good, but yes, not enough to do in the movie for anyone to be saying Oscar. Are these people forgetting how badly they fucked him over for Brokeback?

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[info]rnb
2008-08-22 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Oh, man, I completely forgot about the sonar thing. That was awful. Was Brokeback any good? I never saw it.

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[info]vivaemptiness
2008-08-23 01:19 am UTC (link)
In my extremely film-illiterate opinion, it was stunningly good. I walked out at the end like I'd been hit in the head with a frying pan.

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[info]tomdoyle
2008-08-23 02:41 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't get past the first few Heroes episodes, and I'm a big fan of the re-visioned comic books.

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(Anonymous)
2008-08-28 02:48 am UTC (link)
I liked the comment someone made on the radio that there biggest complaint was that batman talked like a mix between clint eastwood and a grizzly bear. What was up with that! They really needed to read the watchmen a few times to know what a dark realistic superhero film should be like.

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